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Field for disc errors
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorFHarlock
Registered: March 15, 2007
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Some titles I have, has important edition errors. Some times, the feature can be unplayable.

I think it will be interesting have a field similar like easter eggs for this. Can be determinated for buy or don't buy one title.

Example for important errors that I have actually in my collection and not are in dvdprofiler database.
- DTS tracks with important audio fails. It's unplayable. Change for DD track with these language that not have that error.
- Last 10 minutes of one audio track is mute. Unplayable language.
- BR with DD with ecualization errors. Unplayable language. You must choose DVD edition to play that language.
- Menu unplayable in Philips lectors. Unplayable disc in Philips.
- Menu unplayable in PS2 lectors. Unplayable in PS2.
- Oppen mate bad cut. Return to future 1 dvd. Caribbean Pirates 1 BR.
- Documental without subs in BR when dvd edition has. Good for not sale dvd edition or to buy.
- Redubbeb and not original dubbed.
- Audio track with errors, lose many dialogues that can ear.
- Censored edition non announce.
- Musical film with subs for dialogues bad nor for musical scenes.


I think these information if very usefull for people. And editors could wacht that bad edition is bad publicity.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBad Father
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That's what the "Notes" field is for. So...what you're wanting is for Ken to make the "Note"s field contributable?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAlien Redrum
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Great idea. 

This is a little bigger than notes, considering if it affects more than just the owner of the disc.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKulju
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Great idea. 

This is a little bigger than notes, considering if it affects more than just the owner of the disc.

I think that this is a bad idea, since many of these "problems" can express themself just with a correct (or in this case incorrect) hardware combination. It might be the player brand, model, player's firmware etc. If one person have a problem with a particular disc, same disc might work OK for another user with a different hardware setup.

If there really is a faulty disc or set of discs, what about when the distributor releases a fixed set with a same UPC? This type of field can become a nightmare very fast.
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... It might be the player brand, model, player's firmware etc. If one person have a problem with a particular disc, same disc might work OK for another user with a different hardware setup.

If there really is a faulty disc or set of discs, what about when the distributor releases a fixed set with a same UPC? This type of field can become a nightmare very fast.

I agree with this point of view. We could still share that kind of info in an organized way, in the Forums, and maybe with a special app that retrieves the HW issues by UPC.
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I gotta agree with Kulju on this one... I have had discs (or portions of) work fine in one of my players... but not work correctly in another player on more then one occasion.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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This is exactly from the same reason that Pete had wrote that I don't see any practical use for this. Defective disc are very infrequent and most of the time the problem is the reader not the dvd itself.
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Great idea. 

This is a little bigger than notes, considering if it affects more than just the owner of the disc.

I think that this is a bad idea, since many of these "problems" can express themself just with a correct (or in this case incorrect) hardware combination. It might be the player brand, model, player's firmware etc. If one person have a problem with a particular disc, same disc might work OK for another user with a different hardware setup.

If there really is a faulty disc or set of discs, what about when the distributor releases a fixed set with a same UPC? This type of field can become a nightmare very fast.


I agree that the machine-only type of issues should be local only, but stuff like:

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Last 10 minutes of one audio track is mute. Unplayable language.


Would be pretty valuable to me. I have numerous discs with various issues (Slaughter Night's audio comes to mind immediately).

I think this would be really useful for discs with known errors. I don't think it will be a nightmare at all, but even more helpful if done properly.

Take Slaughter Night as an example:

Notes:

In first pressings of disc, right audio drops out completely.
Fixed in second pressing.

This would let me know, should I have a bad disc, a correct pressing is out there.

Actually, the more I think about it, I wouldn't be adverse to something that does tell known issues with particular players. It would be quite helpful to plenty.
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The notes are personal, they should stay that way.
If I get a disc that will not play, I return it.
I do not not do business with anybody doesn't take returns.
I keep my firmware and drivers up to date.
That means it will not play on 2 Oppos, a Panasonic, a Samsung and the LG in my PC
and has been checked with the VSO Inspector for the error and bad location.
Also there are a number of site to check if a particular dvd has a history of problems.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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It would be quite helpful to plenty.

You just forgot one fact and believe me I know this first hand (I have good relations with many label owners). Nothing will prevent someone to use this to do smearing campaigns against dvd labels. Why? just the fact that it is impossible to verify what the contributor wrote unless you own the disc in the first place make this completly unreliable and highly risqued for the database owner.

When a real problem exist it's very easy to know about it from reliable sources, even a copyright thief label like Retromedia say it when they have a badly pressed disc.
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It would be quite helpful to plenty.

You just forgot one fact and believe me I know this first hand (I have good relations with many label owners). Nothing will prevent someone to use this to do smearing campaigns against dvd labels. Why? just the fact that it is impossible to verify what the contributor wrote unless you own the disc in the first place make this completly unreliable and highly risqued for the database owner.


Yeah, that's true. There can't even be agreement on something so simple as a name, so this certainly would lead to issues. 

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When a real problem exist it's very easy to know about it from reliable sources, even a copyright thief label like Retromedia say it when they have a badly pressed disc.


Well, yeah, but to be fair, you can say that about 99% of the stuff that is submitted already. Like easter eggs.
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