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How would not allowing those that don't own a DVD bring contributions to a standstill?

Because it makes the whole process far to (needlessly) difficult. Let's say there's a common name-finding thread with a solid outcome, and I need to update that person's name in sixteen of my previously-audited profiles. Are you really suggesting that I put those sixteen discs in my DVD-ROM drive one by one just to be able to propagate a common name shift through my profiles? Or the addition of a birth year to all profiles with that particular actor in it? I'm sorry, but that's just not gonna happen.

I'm a jackass, T!M, I completely missed the quoted part of your post. Yes, I agree, that would hurt the process, you are correct. 

I see where Jimmy is coming from, though. It would be nice if the program could keep a record of who owned what via disc ID (say, by, putting the DVD in the drive once, and it maintains a record) and it's a great idea, but the problem with it is, as some have mentioned, what happens to those that don't have drives (or blu drives, even). It's just unfortunate that, while a solid idea, too many other factors make it difficult.

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But I still don't understand the fuss, so I'll repeat my earlier suggestion: let's just drop the nonsense and instead simply vote "yes" to good data, and "no" to bad data. How's that?

That's great, but I don't know how one would know what data is good and what data is bad without the DVD in hand. Sure there are a few things that can be voted on, but why not play it safe? Hell, I'll even go that if a little common sense is used, there would be more than a few things that could be voted on, but common sense is quite often lost in some of these threads, so you can't even use that.  

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But I still don't understand the fuss, so I'll repeat my earlier suggestion: let's just drop the nonsense and instead simply vote "yes" to good data, and "no" to bad data. How's that?

That's great, but I don't know how one would know what data is good and what data is bad without the DVD in hand.

Well, If I can't be sure, I vote neutral, but really: the difference between "good" and "bad" data is mostly pretty easy to spot. You should know: I'm sure you've voted on thousands of contributions. Surely you've found that just looking at the changes made and the accompanying notes, you almost instinctively know whether those changes are accurate or not? I can understand the problem if you're approaching this from the "everyone's guilty until proven innocent" approach, expecting all contribution notes to be blatant lies until proven otherwise, but that's not the way I approach the voting process.

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But I still don't understand the fuss, so I'll repeat my earlier suggestion: let's just drop the nonsense and instead simply vote "yes" to good data, and "no" to bad data. How's that?

That's great, but I don't know how one would know what data is good and what data is bad without the DVD in hand.

Well, If I can't be sure, I vote neutral, but really: the difference between "good" and "bad" data is mostly pretty easy to spot. You should know: I'm sure you've voted on thousands of contributions. Surely you've found that just looking at the changes made and the accompanying notes, you almost instinctively know whether those changes are accurate or not? I can understand the problem if you're approaching this from the "everyone's guilty until proven innocent" approach, expecting all contribution notes to be blatant lies until proven otherwise, but that's not the way I approach the voting process.

Oh, sure, I can definitely look at the changes and pretty much know. To be clear, I can see where people are coming from who support the vote-but-don't-own side, I just can't get behind it.

I think this started when I saw someone throw a temper tantrum because they submitted a cover scan of a DVD they didn't even own and it got voted down. That's just a waste of everyone's time.

Does it happen all the time? Probably not. Does it happen enough to be annoying. Yeah.

Am I going to lose sleep if this never changes. Pretty sure I'm not. 

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There again, like pompel9 a few pages ago, you're making a false statement.

Ken had never said that you can change a credit entry if you don't own a disc, so stop interpreting this statement in a wrong way to please your ego . Some thing can be contribute without the dvd when you can confirm it on the cover or the distributor website (for the pre-release) and this is what Ken had said.
Of course, I ain't surprise to see you take a phrase out of its context to mess the database...

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As for the rest: I'm sorry, but I won't sink to your level. You'll have to play by yourself. 

Of course you will wait your next contribution note I will vote on to whine again.
Since I can be positive also, thanks for not sending me a PM has requested.

Edit : just saw that you have block my PM, I sure don't know why since I've never send you one (except one time to answer one of yours I think) and I sure don't intend to do it in the future

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So the system worked as it's supposed to, right?

The system doesn't work as intended since some user get a free pass on their contributions.

Wich clearly prove that the DVDP database isn't more reliable than imdb to me.
Thanks Pete for giving me the proof that this database isn't trustworthy except for the cover scan.

Hope I won't read anymore that the DVDP database ­is superior to the IMDB database, since it isn't really the case at all.

The database will continue to be unreliable as long as a disc id detection system will be put in place to contribute... Untill this day we have a corrupted with bad information database.

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Hope I won't read anymore that the DVDP database ­is superior to the IMDB database, since it isn't really the case at all.

Not to worry: you won't hear me say that. I keep hoping it will be, one day, but as it stands, we're not there yet. The fact that a pretty large percentage of our database is still made up of IMDb-mined data, and more of it is still regularly getting in the database even now, is the first hurdle we need to tackle. And then IMDb has the wonderful thing that every person has a unique ID, while we have to work with ever-shifting common names and birth years (which we mostly can't find) to distinguish between people with the same names. That unique key is a pretty big plus for them...

I for one never said DVDP's database was more accurate then IMDB... but I can say that for the titles that I own it definitely is. And I can say that I still have a bad dislike for IMDB.

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I wasn't talking directly to you, I used it as a broad term, as in all of us.

But if you are offended by the fact that I'm saying what I thinks should be done, then I will leave this forum again. Because I don't like to be attacked for saying what I think.

I really think that you should not quit and go non saying what you think. I too was attacked many times for giving my opinion, but that is the only way to show Ken that there is not only one way to see things. After that, he does what he wants, but he knows that there are different points of view.

Thanks for the support, but I am fed up by being attacked every time I post on this forum. I saw that moderation had come to this forum, and that is why I came back. But moderation haven't changed anything, so I'm going of the grid again.
If the forum gets better, I will come back. Because I love this software and are a collector of DVDs and Blue-rays. I want to contribute, and I do on a regular basis. But it's very hostile, and being attacked because I contribute to the database is bad.
For now i will suspend my contributions, and only do it localy.