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Times of Layer Skips
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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This used to be a huge point of discussion back in the early days of RSDL discs; when we set up www.digitallyobsessed.com years ago we included the location of the layer change on all RSDL discs for reference.  Now I think I'm the only reviewer who still includes it as a matter of course.  Our site is a pretty good reference for these timings, if you're interested, with over 9000 Region 1 reviews, especially on older DVDs.  But if they're just dual layer as opposed to RSDL, and the layer change doesn't fall in the middle of a program, then there's no place to locate it.

If you have a Sony DVD player, most of them have a very useful graphic that tells you exactly where the layer change is, so you can spot it even on ones that are authored in a manner so as to be invisible (Criterion is very good at this).
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgoodguy
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting hydr0x:
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you can't find out the timecode fast enough to make it part of a full audit.

Well, If you do a full audit, you have to verify technical info like regions, audio, etc. Looking for the layer break in the IFO doesn't add much to it.

But personally, I don't care for it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRifter
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Total waste of time, and serves no practical purpose, in my opinion.
John

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting hydr0x:
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[...] you can't find out the timecode fast enough to make it part of a full audit. Currently you can do a full audit quick, without even having seen the movie. [...]

I do agree that layer skip info is not of much value. But why do you insist in the ability for making full audits, if you are not interested in some part of the profiles? Me for example, I never correct release dates and leave the field blank on new profiles because I'm not interested in that information. Not as strict but similar I deal with SRP and genres.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhydr0x
Registered: April 4, 2007
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It's got nothing to do with me not being interested in that info. I want to be able to do a full audit without having to actually watch the movie in full length, no matter if I'm interested in certain info or not. I thought this would be the first field where you'd have to do exactly that, but apparently there are tools who do this for you, according to goodguy.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I haven';t been able to verify goodguys claim, I have looked at several titles with the various tools in my bag and I haven't locatedit...yet.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Skip, have you used IFOEdit? That seems to be the tool needed here.

I have no idea though, where that data would be found with in the IFO file..
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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Total waste of time, and serves no practical purpose, in my opinion.


I tend to agree with you John except for one minor thing.  I have seen people requested this data when they're having problems with playback.  So if a movie locks up an hour into it, they might ask where the layer change is on a message board to see if that is what is causing the lockup.

With that said, I agree that it's a waste of time and serves almost no practical purpose.  I would also vote to NOT add it to the program.
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