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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
DVDP is still the best, but there are some things from MY MOVIES I'd like to see incorporated into DVDP, such as:
- better online view: http://c.mymovies.dk/demonstrationhd That is a nicer online view, but it isn't something I really care about. Add to that the fact that you have to pay to have it, I don't see it as a better option. Quote:
- better handling of actor data (one ID per actor, with possibility to add bio info) : http://www.mymovies.dk/products/collection-management.aspx Um, don't they use IMDb data for their cast and crew? The '(as credited name)' after the role is a dead giveaway. It's easy to handle that data better when you are using the data, and system, developed and maintained by someone else. Now I just had a quick look at the My Movies pricing structure, and I wasn't impressed in the least. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes they do martian. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: February 23, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,580 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Taro:
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DVDP is still the best, but there are some things from MY MOVIES I'd like to see incorporated into DVDP, such as:
- better online view: http://c.mymovies.dk/demonstrationhd
That is a nicer online view, but it isn't something I really care about. Add to that the fact that you have to pay to have it, I don't see it as a better option.
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- better handling of actor data (one ID per actor, with possibility to add bio info) : http://www.mymovies.dk/products/collection-management.aspx
Um, don't they use IMDb data for their cast and crew? The '(as credited name)' after the role is a dead giveaway. It's easy to handle that data better when you are using the data, and system, developed and maintained by someone else.
Now I just had a quick look at the My Movies pricing structure, and I wasn't impressed in the least. All valid points, especially the pricing structure which can run very high if you want all the bells and whistles. Also, I agree that an IMDB mined cast/crew structure is not the way to go. All in all I still think DVDP is the best out there. Just pointing out there are two things that can be done better in my humble opinion: - Online view (something akin to PHPDVDP would be nice) > I think Ken hinted at such an optional plan for DVDPO+ - Cast/crew handling: the constant updating via CLT is a system that is too time consuming and as such too many actors are not linked correctly locally (don't mind the pingponging of changing CLT results). A unique ID based actor/crew system with name variants would be a dream come true I certainly wasn't my intent to invite Invelos to carbon copy the systems in place at My Movies, but merely a way of stating: this is what it could look like if done right, the Invelos way. Can't wait to see what version 5.x will bring us :D | | | Blu-ray collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 767 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
Can't wait to see what version 5.x will bring us :D  |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
A unique ID based actor/crew system the name variants would be a dream come true At least one to do it ourselves locally. Without a birthdate the only way to do it is to play with the name parsing wich works only two times (and I've case of three actresses with the same name without a birthdate, kind of annoying to do it with a false name or by doing a volontary typo). This is the two way I wrote about : 1. Joe / / Unknown 2. Joe Unknown / / with an identifier it would became : 1. Joe Unknown #0001 2. Joe Unknown #0002 3. Joe Unknown #0003 4. .... | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Jimmy:
Even in your example you can't just blindly create a link for multiple Joe u.s. there has to be a method to be able to document they ate the same, hence the birth year. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah I know but if in place of the birthdate we will have an identifier who would be invisible in the profile it will be possible.
As it will be a personalization thing (therefore for the personal database) the user will know that Joe Unknow (0001) is not Joe Unknow (0002) even if they appear the same in the profile. The only difference would be that each names would be link with the good movie. | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Jimmy:
This identifier will be provided how, simply based on name. I don't think do. We still need a way to discriminate betseen like or similar names. Simply pulling a number out of a hat doesn't get it. Joe may not be the same person ad Joe. Do I repeat how do we document between two joes before a number is assigned. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 54 |
| | Posted: | | | | Been awhile i have used my DVDprofiler on my PC and iOS, but i am picking up again on my hobby.
So i checked out the website and i see there hasn't been much changes lately, actually the last release has been more than a year ago.
So what's happening, no new developments, no new project no new updates? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Harry: There is a new version in the works. You know the drill, it will be released...Monday.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Pete:
I agree. But then steffen seems representative of a number of users. In 5 years he has one post, no contributions of any kind. So I tale his post with a grain of salt. Dvdpro is still the best there is period. The bold was added by me. I think you hit the nail on the head. He represents "most" users. Those of us who hang around here know what is going on (more or less). From an outsider's point of view, it must appear to be nearly abandoned software. It's sad to think how this software must appear to outside people. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Jimmy:
This identifier will be provided how, simply based on name. I know Skip... I said it was needed for the personal database not the online database to make a distinction when more than 2 people share the same name with no birthdate... I know wich actor is wich in my database and the way to do it now is problematic, seriously you must invent a middle initial or make a volontary typo in the name. I repeat that it is for the personal database, I don't trust the online database for the cast / crew information. | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
Quoting Winston Smith:
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Pete:
I agree. But then steffen seems representative of a number of users. In 5 years he has one post, no contributions of any kind. So I tale his post with a grain of salt. Dvdpro is still the best there is period.
The bold was added by me. I think you hit the nail on the head. He represents "most" users. Those of us who hang around here know what is going on (more or less). From an outsider's point of view, it must appear to be nearly abandoned software.
It's sad to think how this software must appear to outside people. That is an excellent point. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Do I repeat how do we document between two joes before a number is assigned. How would we do it now? There are many cases where we know of at least three persons that share the same name. Let's just assume for a second that proper documentation was provided. With the current system we get a major problem if we cannot find ( and verify) a BY for each of those persons, because we are only able to attach either a verified BY or leave it blank. So if we have three different (verified) Joe Unknowns and are only able to find one BY two John Unknowns will be kept linked even though we know this to be incorrect. This is insufficient. If I understood Jimmy correctly his method is for those cases where we know that Joe Unknown and Joe Unknown are two different persons, but are not able to find a birthyear. There are many cases where this knowledge is easy to get, if e.g. Joe Unknown played an old man in a movie from 1955 and a young boy in 2011 it is quite unlikely that these are the same person. For cases like described in the example Jimmy's solution is (IMO) the by far better way. You only need to provide documentation (in which form ever) that the two are not identical. The problem that I see though is how to get these numbers synchronized throughout the database? My number 0001 might as well be someone's 0983. With the current system this is simply impossible. So until Ken finds a satisfactory system to distinguish between several persons that share the same name it is like Jimmy said: All proper solutions work strictly local only. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
If I understood Jimmy correctly his method is for those cases where we know that Joe Unknown and Joe Unknown are two different persons, but are not able to find a birthyear. You understand me correctly. I see that identifier as a way to do it ourselves in our database without using fictitious name (adding a middle initial or typo create a fictional name) Quote:
So until Ken finds a satisfactory system to distinguish between several persons that share the same name it is like Jimmy said: All proper solutions work strictly local only. It would be almost impossible to do for the online database, but as a local solution this is perfect. As I wrote previously I know by exemple that Stephanie who was in Sex Boat isn't Stephanie who was in Caged Heat and that none of them are Stephanie who was in Sexual Wichcraft. Luckilly I have a birthdate for one, but no way to distinguish the other two except a typo in the name... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Don't get Hung on by, that is an issue known now for years. But there might be other ways to document without a by, like say a screen cap, but there will always be those that we can't nail down sadly. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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