I have the Ingmar Bergman box set and have tried to contribute the 30 Disc IDs, but was rejected because I didn't add them as child profiles. In fact I broke several rules that I mean to correct.

However, I stumbling on the very first step. I believe the relevant rule is this one:

"Discs with more than one movie on a single side should be entered as one profile per movie. Use a disc ID profile, and as many disc ID alternate profiles as required."

Looking at the UI for DVDP, I see the 3rd tab is where I add a disc by Disc ID.

Now some of these discs contain 1 movie, while others contain 2 movies (on the same side).

SCENARIO #1:
When I insert a disc with 1 movie and DVDP shows me 1 or more matching profiles, is it safe to add any of those profiles to my collection?
I ask this because those profiles already have UPCs and/or DISC IDs but they are NOT the same as the disc I'm adding.

SCENARIO #2:
When I insert a disc with 2 movies and I've already added the first movie profile, how do I add a new profile for the second movie on the same disc? I don't see a way to add this "Disc ID alternate profile" in the Add Disc window.

I did search the forums for this topic but was unable to find these particular scenarios.

I also have Ingmar Bergman's Cinema and all the child profiles for the films already exist.  Try Online -> Refresh DVD from Invelos -> Check for Child Profiles

Quoting rdodolak:

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For either of these you can create an alternate version from the Change UPC / Locality section.

Scenario #1

If your version does not already exist, you can download a similar profile with the same Disc ID.  Then select from the File menu, DVD -> Change UPC/Locality..., and then click the Blue arrow button on the right side of the popup window.  From here, select "Create Alternate Version" and leave the "Retain existing entry and create a clone" check box unchecked.  Click OK, and then update the new profile to reflect your version.

Scenario #2

Same steps as above for the first movie.  For the second or subsequent follow-on movies, follow the above steps, but check the "Retain existing entry and create a clone" check box.

Thanks! This was most helpful.
If I may, there is one difference that might help people who find this. It's just DVD Menu - Change UPC/Locality. The File menu is not necessary (I'm using the PC version 4.0.0 Build 1762).

Thanks to you, I was able to compare the existing discs with what is already in the database. Some of them already existed under the same Disc ID (e.g. Disc #1 Smiles of a Summer Night). I added these profiles to my local box set and will upload the profile.

One other thing, for Scenario #2, it's important to Add By Title instead of adding by Disc ID. This is because a disc that contains 2 different films (e.g. Disc #8 which contains both "Scenes from a Marriage" and "Saraband") will only return the profiles for the first film on the disc when you add by Disc ID.

To check for profiles for the other films on the disc, you must try to add By Title. This will show you profiles for that title and you can then look for the same Disc ID as the first film on the disc. If you don't find a matching Disc ID using the title search, that's when you create a new profile.

As for the Disc ID Alternate Version, if I understand the concept correctly, I would only need to create that if I found a profile that had identical content but a different Disc ID (e.g. a single, stand-alone, Blu-ray release containing "Scenes from a Marriage" and "Saraband" plus identical extras but released as it's own product with it's own case and UPC, etc.). Does that sound right to you?

Quoting rdodolak:

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For either of these you can create an alternate version from the Change UPC / Locality section.

A couple more questions, if you don't mind. The rules say this:

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If a Box Set contains discs of Bonus Material for individual films, do not create separate profiles for these discs. Add the information to the individual film’s profile as normal for a single film 2-Disc set. If there is a disc of Bonus Material for all films included in the Box-set, create a separate profile for this disc.

This boxed set I'm working on includes examples of both of these instances: 1 disc with a documentary about a single film (Disc #29 The Making of Fanny and Alexander) and 1 disc with extras for many of the films (Disc #30 Additional supplements - includes 6 different features).

Additionally, this box set include 2 versions of the film "Fanny and Alexander".
Disc #27 - Fanny and Alexander (TV Version)
Disc #28 - Fanny and Alexander (U.S. Theatrical Version)

Now, if I'm reading the rules correctly, I would expect to find Disc #29 listed as an "extra disc" on both Disc #27 and Disc #28. I would also expect to find a profile for Disc #30 that I can add to my collection and then link to box set.

However, I see that someone has created a profile for Disc #29 (against the rules).
Someone also created a profile for Disc #30 (appropriate) but they added to this a second disc for one of the 6 supplements that disc contains (against the rules).

My questions:
1. Do I need to report the profile for Disc #29 to someone? Just not sure what to do about that.
2. Should I go ahead and add the entry for Disc #29 to the related movies (Discs 27 and 28)?
3. Do I need to report the child profile for Disc #30 to someone?

Thanks for reading all this. It's a lot, I know, but I wanted to be thorough.

The Making of Fanny and Alexander gets its own disc because it is a separate film directed by Bergman, released four years after Fanny and Alexander.  So it's not a featurette, but a film in its own right.  So it having a separate profile is correct.

Also, ...But Film is My Mistress is not a featurette, but again, a separate film in its own right that was released at Cannes, just placed on the Additional Features disc because it's a film about Bergman rather than a film by Bergman.  As a film, it falls under the rule for "Bonus Feature Films" (found in the Disc Features section of the rules).  It is also a correct profile.

Quoting Danae Cassandra:

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Check your profile to make certain that you have not locked the box set contents.  If that isn't the problem with downloading the child profiles, as a next step I'd run a database repair and try again.  Then if that didn't solve the issue with downloading the children, I'd delete the entire box set and add it to my collection again.

I just tried all of these steps. None of them solved the entire problem.

It now adds these child profiles:
[li]Additional Supplements
Fanny and Alexander: The Theatrical Version
Scenes From a Marriage: U.S. Theatrical Version
The Making of Fanny and Alexander
Saraband[/li]

But the other 25 discs still do not show up as children.

Quoting T!M:

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Quoting legolad:

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Is this rule about the supplemental being it's own film documented in the contribution rules somewhere? I cannot seem to find it.

It's on the Disc Features page, here, at the bottom of the page.

Perfect! Thank you so much.

Quoting T!M:

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It's on the Disc Features page, here, at the bottom of the page.

Hey T!M and Danae,

Sorry if I'm being dense here, but when I re-read this rule, it sounds like it says the opposite of what you are telling me.

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Do not confuse "Bonus Feature Films" with "Any video documentary material regarding the film, or those associated with it." Those are Featurettes. 

It even gives examples:

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Some examples of Bonus Feature Films are:
Previous movie versions, example "Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition" which includes the 1925 version.
Companion movie bonuses, example "Season of the Witch" which includes "There's Always Vanilla" from the same director.

"The Making of Fanny and Alexander" is absolutely "video documentary material regarding the film". The rule makes no mention of whether or not such film has been released on its own or anything like that.

Perhaps this rule needs to be updated?